The Reluctant Dishonor

I'm sure most of my regular readers are well aware of my history with the Tuskers. I was a very active and involved member of that Corporation for 18 months of my Eve career, I consider almost everyone in the Corp my friend, and we did a lot of great things together.

And then the boss kicked me out for no damn good reason.

That was almost five months ago and, believe it or not, we've managed to live decently together in Hevrice since then. For the most part. Despite the sudden desire of certain Tuskers to camp our station (something we have never done to their station btw) and a few minor incidents here and there, it has mostly been good fights for everyone.

I'm going to pause here for a moment and admit that I am rather torn about what comes next. I waited almost a week before I wrote this post and was prepared to never write it. In fact, I had given my word as a gentleman that I would be writing the opposite. On the other hand however, I am a journalist and this is a blog about my experiences in Eve. So I sorta, kinda have to write about what is going on in Eve. I just want you to know that I am torn about writing this because I know the accusations of "drama" that will follow.

But fuck it.

The Tuskers dishonored a 1v1.

To add insult to injury they also used ECM.

I'm not sure that you will understand the importance of this event, so let me educate you. During the entire 18 months I was in the Tuskers they never dishonored a 1v1. In point of fact doing so is directly against the CORE of the CODE, reason enough for automatic dismissal from the Corporation. These are not my rules, these are their rules. It is ingrained in each pilot and each pilot swears to abide by the Code.

So I get a private convo from Jaxley, a Tusker Director and someone I respect, asking me what can be done about this? I explain our position and that we consider this a dishonorable action deserving of compensation. The usual amount of denial, evidence, denial, evidence later and we come to a mutual resolution. I will agree to drop the accusation in public if the Tuskers compensate our pilot (which is an admission of guilt btw, which they have done) and have each of the pilots involved apologize privately to our pilot. This seems reasonable to me, I really have no desire to drag this incident thru the mud. And I was prepared to never mention it here on the blog.

We have only received two of the three "apologies" and they both read exactly the same:

"I have been informed that i am obligated to apologize to you for the confustion about a certain 1v1 that you proposed. I am sorry but i cannot apologize for any broken rules or codes, because i had not agreed to any such engagment. I will however apologize for the confusion on the matter and i hope you understand that if anything else like this happens, if i do not respond to your query consider it declined

-Rat Finkle"


Not exactly an apology. And we've yet to receive one from the other pilot involved.

Lest you think for a moment that I'm making a mountain out of a mole hill, since this incident the Tuskers have declared War on Stay Frosty (which is just weird) and begun a campaign of camping us into station, camping the hi-sec gate to Hevrice, and calling for help from their friends to take down our system assets.

On our part we have yet to call on any of our friends. Or camp their station. Or declare war on them.

That won't last however. Stay Frosty is a young Corporation, we certainly don't have the infrastructure, logistical power, or length of experience of the Tuskers. I am aware of that. But what we do have is extremely powerful. We have the high road. We don't dishonor 1v1s. We don't actively camp stations. We are PvPers who are looking for good fights.

But we are also not going anywhere. And we are 130 strong pilots who are not going anywhere.

Already one of the pilots involved in the dishonor has left the Tuskers. And a few more of the pilots I respect have also left in the past week. I openly ask the ones remaining, who are you fighting for? Whatever you think of me, ask yourself what has happened since I left your Corp? Have things gotten better, or have things gone the way I warned you they would? Have I fallen into obscurity like your 'leader' told you I would? Or do I have 130 pilots playing the way you guys used to play? Are you flying for a Corp that dishonors 1v1s and uses ECM against a Frigate?

I'll quote your glorious leader for you. Last week I convo'd him to tell him about the upcoming FFA and ask him nicely if he'd like to participate. That is called an "olive branch" and I swallowed my pride to do it, but I did it.

Rixx Javix > thanks for taking the convo
Rixx Javix > there is a lot of enthusiasm in corp and from other quarters for an FFA in October
Rixx Javix > we'd be willing to sponsor such an event
Suleiman Shouaa > Ok
Suleiman Shouaa > We being?
Rixx Javix > Stay Frosty
Suleiman Shouaa > Ok
Rixx Javix > would tuskers be interested in being a part of it?
Rixx Javix > co-sponsors perhaps?
Suleiman Shouaa > Well unfortunately I decline
Rixx Javix > I was trying to be nice y'know
Suleiman Shouaa > Not really willing to tar the reputation of the corp with association with you

Ask yourself, who are you fighting for?

I fight for my friends.




59 comments:

  1. 2013.09.22 18:57:24 ] Akirra Menelaos > technically he never agreed to 1v1

    No one ever agreed to a 1v1, there was someone asking for one, no one replied.

    Stop beeing a enourmous douche.

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    1. [ 2013.09.22 19:04:12 ] God's Apples > To be fair Akirra offered a 1 v 1

      [ 2013.09.22 19:02:09 ] Rixx Javix > God's Apples > You think I dishonor tusker name?
      [ 2013.09.22 19:02:34 ] God's Apples > I'm well aware of the irony in that
      [ 2013.09.22 19:02:41 ] God's Apples > No need to educate me

      [ 2013.09.22 19:00:23 ] God's Apples > Do we really have a griffin on the field?
      [ 2013.09.22 19:00:28 ] God's Apples > :/
      [ 2013.09.22 19:00:34 ] Rixx Javix > yes you do
      [ 2013.09.22 19:00:40 ] God's Apples > Jesus Christ

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    2. Yes its a douche move (as all ecm is, and if i may remind you, my very first fight vs st-fr was against you at the sun, 1v1 wolf vs hookbill, you brought in a griffin to safe your ass), still isnt a dishonoured 1v1.

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    3. Me and God's watched the fight. Two ships. Then two more showed up and derped the Slasher. Tukser leadership convo'd me and compensated our pilot for their loss. They also agreed to write letters of apology. They broke their word.

      Sounds pretty bad to me. But like I told Jax, we don't care. Other people might though. Plus it's news and it happened, so I write about it. That's what I do. Get used to it.

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    4. Its still not a broken 1v1. You are just not telling the truth.

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  2. I understand that as the CEO of a very large corporation you can impossibly keep track of what every pilot in Stay Frosty does. But to say that not a single one of your pilots never dishonors a percieved 1v1 is just not true. I was in a very similar situation once where I thought I was invited to a 1v1 and then got 2v1'd. To be fair the discussion around the 1v1 could in hindsight be interpreted as ambigious, very similar to the situation Akirra was in.

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    1. Granted. It is a rather complicated issue, which is why I generally try to avoid "agreed" 1v1s unless I know the other pilot. In this case however, and despite what anyone might say, both God's Apples and I were both on the scene above the fight watching it. So I know exactly what happened.

      However, I also agreed that it was "technically" ambiguous which is why I agreed to the settlement. Which the Tuskers ten proceeded to also break their word on.

      And that is the story.

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    2. You informed us that you wouldn't accept the two apologies you got, so why bother sending the third?

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    3. We reject the apologies as obviously manufactured and not actual apologies sine they clearly state "I cannot apologize". So yeah. Pointless.

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  3. You are a "journalist" in the fox news variety, biased and pushing your own agenda no matter the truth. In reality you are just a blogger about a game.

    Here is the chat log from local at the time of us ganking Akirra.

    [ 2013.09.22 18:54:30 ] Akirra Menelaos > Rat Finkle 1v1?
    [ 2013.09.22 18:56:24 ] Akirra Menelaos > warp off apples
    [ 2013.09.22 18:56:26 ] God's Apples > Just watching
    [ 2013.09.22 18:56:37 ] God's Apples > I am honorabru
    [ 2013.09.22 18:56:41 ] Akirra Menelaos > rriiiight
    [ 2013.09.22 18:56:42 ] Akirra Menelaos > warp off
    [ 2013.09.22 18:57:01 ] God's Apples > You think I dishonor tusker name?
    [ 2013.09.22 18:57:24 ] Akirra Menelaos > technically he never agreed to 1v1
    [ 2013.09.22 18:57:26 ] Akirra Menelaos > he just shot me
    [ 2013.09.22 18:57:32 ] Akirra Menelaos > I'm not that silly ;)
    [ 2013.09.22 18:57:45 ] God's Apples > Honestly I don't really care
    [ 2013.09.22 18:57:59 ] God's Apples > And it would be stupid shooting a slasher fighting a thrasher with my ishtar
    [ 2013.09.22 18:58:03 ] Ta'xet N'Vexx > skullzskullzskullz
    [ 2013.09.22 18:58:24 ] Akirra Menelaos > then why are you even targetting me?
    [ 2013.09.22 18:58:34 ] God's Apples > Watching the honor battle?
    [ 2013.09.22 19:00:10 ] Rixx Javix > supposed to be a 1v1 idiots
    [ 2013.09.22 19:00:23 ] God's Apples > Do we really have a griffin on the field?
    [ 2013.09.22 19:00:28 ] God's Apples > :/
    [ 2013.09.22 19:00:34 ] Rixx Javix > yes you do
    [ 2013.09.22 19:00:40 ] God's Apples > Jesus Christ
    [ 2013.09.22 19:00:47 ] Bogdan Yassavi > why are you jamming me for? :))
    [ 2013.09.22 19:00:58 ] Rixx Javix > and i believe you just fucked a 1v1
    [ 2013.09.22 19:01:16 ] God's Apples > I didn't do nuttin'
    [ 2013.09.22 19:01:17 ] Bogdan Yassavi > navitas repping, griffins :))
    [ 2013.09.22 19:01:17 ] Rat Finkle > when did i say i would 1v1?
    [ 2013.09.22 19:01:20 ] Meebz > gf gf
    [ 2013.09.22 19:01:31 ] Bogdan Yassavi > you didn;t :P

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    1. Me and God's watched the fight. Two ships. Then two more showed up and derped the Slasher. Tusker leadership convo'd me and compensated our pilot for their loss. They also agreed to write letters of apology. They broke their word.

      Sounds pretty bad to me. But like I told Jax, we don't care. Other people might though. Plus it's news and it happened, so I write about it. That's what I do. Get used to it.

      PS: Eve + Propaganda = Eveoganda. Your one-stop Eve Magazine and gateway to the Eve Community, for over four years Eveoganda has been raising Hell, taking names and openly mocking things that need to be mocked. All in the name of fun, adventure and internet spaceships.

      It's the description of the site! I openly admit to extreme bias, pushing my own agenda, prejudice and open, honest personal perspective. Always have.

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    2. I think I understand what happened, I'm the griffin pilot after all. A journalist reports facts. You do not so a blogger is a much more accurate term for what you do.

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    3. Rixx, I really do like you, but when a perceived dishonoured 1vs1 (since there seems to be debate), spawns a blog post like this, surely you must be aware how that looks to the rest of the world (yes, yes, I know you don't blog for the world but for yourself but still)?

      I mean there was a post on the R1DER forums not that long ago in which a Stay Frosty pilot did the same (there was no technical agreement to a 1vs1 but the impression was given). No blog post got written not tweets got twittered.

      But to cry Havoc in public at such occasions, it's hard to percieve that as anything other then a concious attempt at tarnishing the reputation of people. Which makes you look bad as much as the people you're writing about.

      My reluctant 0.02 ISK.

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    4. Kaeda - I respect you so I will be as clear as I can be. I try to write what I believe to be the truth, I always have. I write about the bad things and the good things as openly as possible. As I said, I wasn't going to write about this incident. But they broke their end of the gentleman's agreement. I can't just let that "slide" and not post about it. That would be dishonorable to me as a blogger, as a pirate and as the CEO of Stay Frosty. This incident happened, no one is denying that. They brought ECM and God's Apples and I both sat and watched it happen.

      I leave it to everyone else to decide what they think about it. For me and for everyone in SF this is clearly a broken 1v1. What anyone else thinks is their decision.

      But I am not going to stop writing about what happens in Eve. I haven't for four years and I won't stop now. And sometimes, not everyone is going to agree with me. So be it.

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    5. "But I am not going to stop spinning what happens in Eve. I haven't for four years and I won't stop now."

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    6. Wow, someone is finally starting to catch on. I'm impressed.

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  4. While I see your point of breaking the 1v1, Tusker have never openly agreed to 1v1's. Like, never. Never in their history have I seen a Tusker say "yes" to a 1v1 offer in local. Will they make it an "accident" that they landed on grid at the sun where you mentioned to have the 1v1?? Yeah, maybe. Its why I tried to avoid fighting them when I was in r1fta. r1fta, when I was there, will actually accept and honor 1v1's. Tuskers dont.

    Im with you though on the Tusker hate train. Screw those guys. They arent real pirates anymore, not for a long time.

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    1. Sorry, where exactly does the link between honourable 1v1 e-warriors and pirates come in?

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  5. So they never broke a 1v1 (cant brake what you dont accept) and they killed you. Thats why you hate the tuskers?

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  6. I know you meant the questions to be rhetorical but here goes anyway.
    I openly ask the ones remaining, who are you fighting for? I'll fight for any of the Tuskers, no question

    Whatever you think of me, ask yourself what has happened since I left your Corp? Less internal drama and no further attempts at a coup.

    Have things gotten better, or have things gone the way I warned you they would? I'd say yes, they've gotten better, what did you warn me would happen ?

    Have I fallen into obscurity like your 'leader' told you I would? Probably wrong, but I don't remember our leader ever saying that, but no, we all know you'll never go away (but we can hope right)

    Or do I have 130 pilots playing the way you guys used to play? You do (i'm taking you word for the numbers, although I probably shouldn't) and it seems like you've got a good bunch of guys that are having a lot of fun

    Are you flying for a Corp that dishonors 1v1s and uses ECM against a Frigate? Dishonors 1v1's nope, what does using ECM have to do with anything, you're corp uses it too

    And you keep bringing up the issue that you were kicked for no reason when you know this is false.
    You had been warned to stop doing something or you'd be kicked, but you thought you were to famous to be given the boot so you dared Suleiman to follow through. Turns out you weren't that famous.

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    1. Ocha - You are a good pilot and I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on your attempts to re-write history and defend your corp when they are clearly in the wrong.

      I won't address each of your answers since they obviously come from that perspective, but I will address two significant false statements.

      ECM is dishonorable when used in the way it was used here. For three Frigates to defeat one Frigate. Especially in light of the clearly stated intention in both local and in private chat. Those on the field at the time knew what they were doing. ECM being used in this case was dishonorable. No question.

      I was actually kicked for no reason. The so-called "drama" came after the fact, not before. That is a fact and cannot be changed no matter how much you want it to be. I stood up for myself internally ( not publicly) against false accusations and was removed because of it. Everything else that happened occurred after that.

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  7. We're pirates, I don't see why we should honor, such agreements. However, I respect the rules from our corp. Now about ECM as much I don't like them, they're part of the game. Just like warp stabs and cloaks. I cannot do anything to change them so it's not worth bothering.

    I don't understand why Tuskers past 5 months of our existence, decided to declare war all a sudden. Probably, there are reason behind it. Do I care? Not really. I still go out and blow stuff. I just have more annoying guys around our base lol.

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    1. Quite a few of you arent flashy, so it takes gateguns/station guns out of the equation. Also means we can kill you in highsec while you are missioning.

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    2. True pirates/pirate corps earn their isk off ransoms and looting, etc... It's bad for business to dishonor ransoms and agreed 1v1's. That is why corps. like the Tusker (of old) have that rule in place.

      Believe it or not there is honor among thieves. Or pirates, in the case of low sec denizens who care to play that way.

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    3. I see why we should honor ransoms, it's good for business but 1v1 isn't. In a game that it's who blobs the most. I see it as a rule that only causes more unnecessary drama. Besides most non-pirate corps in low-sec don't have such rule.As pirates, I don't see why we should be any better than them.

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    4. You think that not honoreing 1v1's is okay? What a retarded thing to say. Do you not understand that a corp who does not honore~ 1v1's ... well, they might start to wonder after a while why nobody actually ~fights~ them. ~ Hurgeth.

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  8. Can you post the chatlog where the Tusker agreed to the 1v1? It would really strengthen your case.

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    1. I'm not looking to strengthen my case. Maybe I haven't been clear. I do not care what anyone else thinks about this incident. I told Jaxley that in our convo. I consider the incident to be a dishonored 1v1 with the use of ECM when it wasn't necessary. I don't care what anyone else thinks happened. I don't need validation from another source. I was there, on the field, while it played out.

      I'm not presenting a "case" but simply writing what has happened. Everyone is free to think whatever the heck they want to think. Just as I am. Just as every member of Stay Frosty is.

      Unlike some Corps, ours is not a dictatorship.

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    2. You truly don't care whether people believe you or not?

      I have read the article (and the comments) and I am unconvinced that an arranged 1v1 has been dishonoured. Even Akirra is quoted in another comment as saying that there was no agreement to a 1v1. I'd just like more facts so I can form a more informed opinion.

      At the moment, it does not sound like any of the Tuskers replied to Akirra's request for a 1v1 before attacking him.

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    3. I truly do not care. I know what happened, I was there and saw it for myself. What more do I need to know? I've said that "technically" it could be regarded as ambiguous,which is how these 1v1 things always are. If they aren't, then its easy isn't it?

      That doesn't change the facts. Or the multiple chats going at once, or all of us just sitting there watching two people fighting, or God's clearly stating in local that he believed a 1v1 was going on, or me reinforcing that with my pilot and being told yes a 1v1 was going on.

      What the Tuskers think or dont think is of no concern to me AT ALL. Not even a tiny itty bit.

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    4. If none of the Tuskers agreed to a 1v1 (or said something that could be misconstrued as an agreement) before attacking Akirra then it really isn't ambiguous.

      The agreement to have a 1v1 with Akirra is the most damning thing you have to shame the Tuskers with. Why haven't you posted it?

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    5. Like with most people, you assume my purpose is to "shame" the Tuskers. That is not my purpose at all. My purpose is primarily to entertain my readers, tell my side of the story, promote my activities, events, and Corporation, and provide a steady source of in-game income so I don't have to rat.

      Other than that I could care less.

      Plus I'm just really tired of talking about it frankly. Seems pretty cut and dry to me.

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    6. If you're going to call yourself a journalist, it is your job to produce the proof that is intrisic to this "story". What you have produced is Colbert journalism, whose argument is entirely dependant upon "truthiness". This is your blog, so write whatever you want. Unfortunately, I think all this post has done is tarnish your reputation.

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    7. Gosh "anonymous" commenter thinks my reputation is tarnished, what will I ever do?

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    8. I assumed that the purpose of your article was to convince your readers that the Tuskers dishonoured a 1v1. It seems pretty cut and dry that no 1v1 was ever agreed to because you can't/won't provide a chatlog of it. I usually enjoy reading your articles but this one seems to be intentionally misleading.

      P.S. The person who posted at 11:25pm is a different guy.

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    9. he has never claimed to not mislead his readers, whats worrying is that so many takes his word as if coming straight from the lord himself
      cant really blame rixx for that tho

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  9. While I'll agree this current Tusker group doesn't resemble Tusker's of old, I haven't seen any certainty of "dishonor" here. But having certainty in these situations is near impossible. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't, I don't think it matters. After all, we are promoting sandbox play here at Stay Frosty?

    In my opinion arranged 1v1's take away a level of the uncertainty that makes Eve great, so I rarely offer or accept them, even though I am often solo. Had one of these Tuskers used a link alt and honored the 1v1, would this be a different story? I'd argue such resources are equally as advantageous as extra ships.

    Don't get me wrong, if you agree to a 1v1 you should honor it, but people only take fights because they have some level of expectation to win.

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  10. stay fosty allways blob in times i fight them u are 1 cheeky blogger mate i swear i am goin 2 wardeck u i swear on my mums life and i no u corp are scared lil bitches gettin your mates to rep poses and break 1v1s lol send me messages on eve when you no what am about mate tell ya saying dont meet up coz u r sum big bastard corp with muscles lol fucken sad mate really sad jus shows what a scared lil gay corp u are and whats all this crap ur corpmates sendin me about sum bodybuildin website that 1 of your faverite places to look at men u lil gay stay forsty batfone if u got da balls cheeky pricks see if u can step up and bloody james he is gey i seen him once do a reachie on a guy ion ouelletta yeah mate tell ya so what ya got say bout that then mate truth hurts?

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    1. Nah, that's fake. You tried too hard.

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  11. ITS OUR PARTY WE CAN DO WHAT WE WANT. ~ miley fan boi.

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  12. About a year ago when Rixx was in Tuskers and I was in Shadow Cartel he forged chat logs to accuse me of dishonouring a 1v1. It was just like this, in my case he said 'so?' in local just before red boxing me. After I and my corpmates killed his daredevil and pod, he wrote a blog post claiming it was a dishonoured 1v1 and sent forged chat logs to the Tusker and Shadow Cartel CEOs to get me booted.

    He actually inserted dialogue into the local chat that showed him asking for a 1v1 directly and me verbally accepting.

    Dark Magni - Tusker

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    1. For anyone that would like to know more about the above incident, please feel free to read: http://eveoganda.blogspot.com/2012/08/clarification.html

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    2. I actually read that, are you for real? For anyone who is to lazy to read tl:dr, rixxs engaged a jag in a belt and got blobbed and managed to be dumb enough to die (in a daredevil that can run away from everything), he then started crying around and cursing his opponents (which alone would have been enough to kick him from the tuskers) because wwarping out a pod is very hard when you are rixx. He then proceeded to always run away when he saw the jag pilot.

      Whuaaa whuaa they killed my daredevil i will never fight him again.

      And you call yourself a pirat?

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  13. A lot of the comments here seem to revolve around 'actual proof' of an agreed 1v1, and whilst that is in question, here is the way I see it based on the write up;

    Akirra offered a 1v1 at a specific location. At least 1 other Stay Frosty pilot and 1 Tusker pilot was on grid and agreed to keep themselves out of the fight, lending credit to the possibility of a 1v1

    Then, two things happened that in my opinion shouldn't have happened. If I get this wrong someone please feel free to correct me.

    1) Akirra stayed at the proposed 1v1 location awaiting a fight. Whilst this isn't doing anything wrong, it simply wasn't a wise move, because of the following:

    2) The Tuskers never verbally declined the 1v1. Instead they took the terms of the 1v1 as 'Oh look, an easy target at this location!'. The only reason they caught Akirra at that time was because he was under the impression that we could get a 1v1 there.
    If Akirra had known it wasn't going to be a 1v1 he would never have let himself be caught there (maybe he'd have got caught elsewhere, but that's outside of this discussion and totally ok).


    So. from what I can see, the Tuskers allowed Akirra to believe he was possibly getting a 1v1 for long enough for them to get the jump on him. To me, that's a cheap trick that's hardly worth it just to catch a T1 frigate, and ultimately, it's dishonourable (you don't have to break an agreement act dishonourable).

    Yes, Akirra could have avoided the situation by not being at the proposed 1v1 location, but the Tuskers did act dishonourably by the way they killed him.

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    1. It is actually worse than that because the 1v1 location was outside a station undock, which eliminated many of the options you mention for our pilot once engaged.

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  14. I don't think the burden should be on the person being offered the 1v1 to decline it. You should assume that a 1v1 isn't happening until somebody has agreed to it, not that it is happening until somebody has declined it.

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    1. Sorry, that was supposed to be a reply to Clut.

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    2. I agree, the burden shouldn't be on the person to accept or decline the 1v1, however it doesn't detract from the method used to catch and kill Akirra. It was a sneaky trick sending in (I assume) a single ship as a pretense to the 1v1, knowing this would trap Akirra into the fight.

      Akirra should have not engaged until he got a clear response, however the onlookers here may have unwittingly confused the situation with a tusker pilot on grid stating that he was 'Just watching'. This may have been confirmation enough for Akirra, as I imagine he was primarily concerned with that Tusker interfering (Kudos for not!).

      Regarding the 3 Tuskers that were involved, this is not 'hunting' a target, nor is it catching a target. It's a dishonourable method for trapping a target. It's not big and it's not clever, and mostly, it doesn't fit with what I'd previously heard about the Tuskers, which is that they were good pvp'ers and a good group to boot in terms of how they played. Instead, this is more of a dirty goon tactic and not a decent way to pvp.

      All this aside, half of the issue here seems to be the apology, to which there isn't much debating.

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  15. Ahah! ... the good old 1v1.

    Reading these comments just reminded my exactly why I treat people asking for a 1v1 in the same way as I do people asking me if they can shit on my carpet. :D

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    1. Same here. The only exception I make is for those that come a long way just to fight me and whom I know personally. But that is really a whole other thing.

      For lack of one simple missing apology, this blog post would never have happened.

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    2. Yeah that's understandable. I just like the thrill of the chase, and if someone suddenly pipes up with '1v1?' .... It takes away half the fun. That's just me anyway, some people are obnoxiously frequent with 1v1 spamming in local. Each to their own I guess!

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    3. So if someone pipes up in local with 1v1 and you don't respond doesn't that mean you've dishonored the 1v1 anyway ?

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    4. Half the fun is the challenge of the hunt. I totally agree.

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    5. But i thought you liked our little 1v1s we have sometimes miura :( I love our little manly spats of space battal in the fury of the blazing sun !

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    6. Can we all be friends now or just blob each other out of existence. And Suileman stop being so high and mighty. You have enough EVE dirt on your hands to last a lifetime.

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    7. When I was in R1FTA, I had a guy offer me a 1v1, and I declined. Then I said I would fight him and agreed on a place. He was puzzled as hell. I told him I would agree to fight, but couldn't be responsible for anyone else showing up (and thereby dishonoring a 1v1 and getting kicked from corp).
      To this day when someone says 1v1 I automatically say no, then offer to fight with no terms, if I think I can win.

      PS. Anonymous commenters can F-off. Leaving critical comments from "Anonymous" is silly. My preference is not to allow them.

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  16. Of all this one thing hits me clearly: Tuskers are becoming drama queens!

    Rixx, I don't know who is right or wrong in this issue, but as you said when you wrote this would make a lot of fun drama. And it sounds for someone not involved with both sides that they haven't forgot you, whatever you did or not. :-)

    they would not be posting all these drama replies if they were not reading your blog.

    Keep it coming! ^^

    Krull

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  17. Since you seem to enjoy accusing us of breaking our own code, I would like to highlight a couple points of the Tusker Code (which can be found here: http://the-tuskers.info/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=63)

    "Knowing that the fight may be over before it has begun, I seek to engage others only on my terms."

    "Although it may be convenient for me to let my target falsely assume he's safe from me, he may hold me to anything I actually do say; I keep my word."

    "I don't engage in consensual PVP (1-vs-1's or duels), for I wish to engage others only on my terms, and other pilots may be dishonorable. But as for me, should I ever accept a 1-vs.-1 or a duel, I shall honor it."

    This has later been simplified to, "I honour 1vs1s and & duels." Both retain the same meaning, but the original is more explicit.

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    As stated by Akirra after the fact, no Tusker agreed to a 1v1. Doing so has always been discouraged since it's prone to doubt, mistrust, and miscommunication which leads to....hurt feelings. (I thought we learned these lessons in kindergarten.)

    God's stated that he was merely watching, which at the time he was. Intentionally misleading? It could understandably be construed as such. But prohibitive to his entrance to the fight moments later? Not at all. He gave no such word against it.

    Finally, those Tuskers involved engaged on their own terms. They arranged a fight they could win. There is no dishonor in that. There is only blind, stupid daring when doing anything less.

    Speaking of engaging on our own terms, we are not looking for 'good fights' from ST-FR. We are looking to make the lives of your members painful enough that they leave Hevrice. That is all. Overfishing is certainly one, impartial reason. But more than that, we've tolerated the insults of you and those among your ranks long enough.

    You do not understand what it means to be a Tusker, and I think you never did.

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