This advice boiled down to "move out of Hevrice, staying is just plain stupid."
Before I move on, I'd like to start off by mentioning a few salient facts. We only started recruiting two weeks ago, many of our pilots are still moving, getting settled, building up their ships, etc. We only got our own comms, forums and killboard set-up a week ago. We are now at about 60 members, 5 of which are former Tuskers btw, and 90% of which have more than a year of playing Eve under their belts.
"This really is just general advice and im only giving it once, because it is to my own disadvantage. Move out of hevrice."
Remember, this wasn't emailed to me, it was posted on my blog. A blog read by a lot of people. Just two weeks in to our formation, recruitment and moving cycle. Already, they want us out.
"Now dont misunderstand,i dont actually want you gone (id much rather have you stay tbh), farming your corp is way to much fun but i really dont think your corp will stay healthy in any way if you choose to stay, the local competition is just to strong. Your corp members will just get farmerd till they lose all fun in small scale/solo pvp, nothing is fun in continuesly dieing to others without getting any real kills."
I guess W0lf is doing me a favor here, that's nice. He seems to forget that the best things are forged in fire. When I built Lucifer's Hammer we started in Syndicate ( which back then meant something! ) and moved to Curse, back to Syndicate and then onward. We looked for trouble. You don't build a pirate corporation on 'easy mode'. It just doesn't happen.
Are we getting "farmed"? Do the Tuskers do that? Strange. I'll be the first to admit that our record currently against the Tuskers isn't good. We have managed to explode 20 of their ships in two weeks, while moving in, so are those not "real"? They sure seem real to me. And to my pilots.
No doubt the Tuskers are far better organized and prepared than we are, plus they have their boosters in local almost 24/7 now, something they would never do before. Huh.
"I can see this going two ways, one is ecm and blobs all the time (its already starting) the other is quttting, neither of these are good options. I get why you as a person dont want to move (all your stuff is in hev and you have been in the area for a very long time), but setting up a noob corp where we live is just plain stupid."
Wow, are the Tuskers really threatening to use ecm and blobs against us? That doesn't sound like them does it? Wonder where that is coming from?
Quitting is a good point. I don't want my pilots getting frustrated and leaving, so I put this to a vote and discussion on our forums. Right now 92% of us want to stay. And you know what? Unlike the Tuskers, those that disagree with me won't be KICKED OUT! lol.
And now the big insult. "Noob Corp"? 90% of Stay Frosty is more than a year old. And, I might mention, some of our newer characters are veterans that wanted to join in order to "have a place to play". So I'd be careful in throwing insults that are not backed by facts.
"Move out, look for your own system, costolle, lisbataine or adirain or even a bit further out are all valid options for your corp to move while still sharing the main hunting grounds, but dont make your corp live in hev or you will ruin it."
So... move close enough that we can still 'farm' you? Why not move to the other side of the map? I mean, I don't want to ruin my new corp. Do I?
Let me be clear. I didn't decide to stay in Hevrice because of the Tuskers. I didn't decide to stay because I am lazy ( couple JF trips and we can be anywhere we want! ). I chose Hevrice because it is the PERFECT place to start a new corporation. Unlike other places in New Eden where people blob, station camp, or otherwise act in unpredictable ways, Hevrice is relatively normal. It is next to hi-sec and sits in the perfect confluence of system access. Trade systems are close, Syndicate is close, as is Black Rise, OMS, and other points of interest. This is why I decided to stay in Hev. (We won't be staying in Hev forever. The plan is to move on in about a year anyway.)
Trial by Fire sounds trite, but it is a universal truth. HTFU or die. Sink or swim.
We aren't leaving. More of us are coming. Much more.
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