Even I am getting tired of this.
Let's go thru this step by step and I'll use numbers and make it bold, so it is easy to follow along:
1. Rixx doesn't care about WCS. Use them or don't use them, he doesn't care.
2. As a blogger I created the "Anti-WCS" campaign to shame those that choose to use them in Low Sec combat situations. And have fun at their expense. Cause they are funny. I'm going to keep doing that.
3. I never considered an actual "ban" of WCS as a module. I do believe they should only be used on transports and industrial non-combat ships, but that's me.
4. I love Faction Warfare and want it to be a great place for people to play Eve.
5. No one "needs" WCS. Like all of us, being aligned and using d-scan is the key to avoiding combat you don't want. Learn it. Live it. Use it.
So I hope that clears things up. I know it won't. But that is no reason for me to stop trying. Sanity and intelligence are my only defense against the horde. People tend to put you in a box and stop listening to what you are actually saying. I understand this, but it doesn't mean I won't keep trying.
And I have another piece of news I'll share, which I've also said before. Those CCP'ers I spoke to at Fanfest happen to agree with me. FW is currently not optimal and is in need of some adjustments. This will happen eventually, although probably not until after Null Sov is dealt with. Entosis links, Battlecruiser sized plex, and other changes are probably coming our way. Many of these changes will indeed affect FW, Pirates, and all of Low Sec. Including those people that use WCS on their combat ships. Masterplan and I specifically had a nice long intelligent chat about the module itself and changes that could easily be made to make it work more better. And not once during any of these conversations did I ask for them to be banned. Not once. Fozzie even made a joke about that.
Why? Because I don't want them to be banned. Duh.
Don't get me wrong, Eve would be so much better if they just disappeared. Poof, gonzo! Woot! But let's be realistic and admit that isn't going to happen, nor did I ever think it was. Although it should. Seriously. (This is a great example of my Pirate and my Blogger having a conversation.)
The inane will continue to accuse me of trying to "force" them to play Eve the way I want them to play. This is the furthest thing from the actual truth. Please feel free to play the way you want, I can't force you to do anything. Nor would I want to. However you feel, you must also face the facts. Eve is a game. A game with rules. Rules that we must all follow. The only people who can force you to play and follow those rules is CCP. No matter how many drums I beat, I'lll never have that kind of power. Sorry. I wish it was different. (Not really)
The funny thing is, Kirith and Susan and everyone else I've talked to about this - actually agree. I can't begin to tell you how many conversations at Fanfest ended the same way, with agreement. So many people started with the assumption that I wanted to ban WCS and by the end realized that we really all agree on the basic tenets of the argument. How about that?
Things are broken. Things need fixed. See how easy that was?
Comments
Maybe what you say cannot be trusted :P
Rob K.
I don't like my targets using them but I understand they don't want to fight. I prefer targets that want to fight. I have never felt much accomplishment ganking, camping, or blowing up players that don't want to PvP. Don't get me wrong I'll kill any target I can. If didn't fit for escape too bad.
As for FW, that is a special case and there should be restrictions on what can enter plexes. But that requires many things to be balanced WCS only being 1 item on the list.
*Delsional hysterial mode turned off. Sorry for the exclamation marks.
The truth is, Rixx has 3 different characters, and keeping them separate is hard to do, especially on a blog. Rixx Javix the person probably gets a little fustrated with stabs, Rixx the pirate hates them. Rixx the blogger has bigger aims . They're all one and the same, and yet not.
For example: replace aspects of God with the various Rixxes on this chart:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Shield-Trinity-Scutum-Fidei-compact.svg
Confused as hell? Me too!
Rob K.
Follow along please. It really ain't that complicated.
Similarly, please address the 'double-mindedness' of Warp core stabilises in a vacuum, and ignore their impacts on other parts of the game. I think you'll find your problems recede markedly.
And finally, as for the 'everyone else agrees with me', dare I suggest that you're operating in an echo chamber? Talk to the Russian farmers too, if you can. They'll, unlike the pirate crowd, have an actual dissenting opinion.
Rob K.
It wasn't really you I was addressing in the 'keeping them separate' bit, but us commentators. Perhaps none of the rest of us have so many aspects to their character :P
Rob K
I don't have any problems.
And I can't speak Russian. All those guys do is yell at me in local when I explode their ships.
As for 'double-mindedness'. I honestly don't understand your opinion. Maybe a post to describe it more fully? Unless I missed it in the original post, in which case, please point it out to me :)
Rob K.
P.S, this is beginning to feel like your most commented post ever, do you have a Hall of Fame?
And btw, I don't use Scouts when I'm solo. That wouldn't be solo then would it?
And hmm, I figured you were solo all the time, despite me knowing that that was not true. I would be interested in how you move much larger ships into the warzone, and whether you decide that there are such things as acceptable losses.
Rob K.
Acceptable losses are an individual pilots decision, not a Corporate one. We do not dictate to anyone in our Alliance what acceptable risk is or isn't. We leave that to each person to decide on their own. And support their efforts to recoup their losses by building an Alliance in which they have the necessary support to do so.
http://jestertrek.blogspot.com.au/2014/05/no-tank-lasts-forever.html
This is an outlier but Jester was also a contentious blogger, who regularly got 100+ responses.
Sadly he's no longer writing.
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Gwyd
When people dropped titans and blapped shit they got nerfed to make sure that they could no longer play the game that way. When the Null Sec went stagnant because of SuperCap Dominance and bad Sov Mechanics CCP nerfed and changed that, and is still changing it, because it created uninteresting unbalanced gameplay.
My favorite example of this is that when Incursions were just released there was a problem of particular sites being too easily farmed. CCP nerfed incurions pretty hard because of this, despite the fact that the incursion community had flourished as a result of said mechanics.
When a mechanic used by players becomes something that is directly detrimental to the health of mechanics of the game or are just plain bad then they deserved to be nerfed.
Should WCS be banned? No. There intended use, that of being able to move safer, is not at all overpowered. But now only the most hardcore of roleplaying FW players plex with any sort of regularity. Know why that is? Its because plexing with a WCS is the most efficient way to do it. Even with the changes by CCP to make plexing harder only forced WCS-Farmers to either ship up to vexors or restricted to certain types of frigates.
And despite all the absolute BITCHING about people being 'forced' to PvP, the original intention for FW plexing was for it to be a draw for people to FUCKING PVP. But because the best way to make money is in WCS thats the way people go. And because people are making tons of money from it, not noobs btw, the people going out in WCS aren't noobs that all us 'mean bittervets' simply want to roflstomp all the time, the vast majority of them are alts of established players who use it as an income source.
And because its an income source people will inevitably jump to its defence. So in a summary of my views.
1. Are FW Plexing mechanics boring and unfun and need to be changed? Yes!
2. While we wait for CCP to overhaul plex mechanics again should WCS-Farmers continue to completely control to FW Sov Game? Nope.
"3. I never considered an actual "ban" of WCS as a module. I do believe they should only be used on transports and industrial non-combat ships, but that's me." posted Thursday, May 14, 2015
which is it?
Rob K.
However, yesterday a fleet of Procurers and Ventures loaded with nasty drones made short work of my heavily tanked Prophecy - so you tell me.
Once in a rare moon, someone might even equip one for ease of disengagement, but that is really rare. Since combat exists with non-pvp entities, i.e. PvE, then WCS can be fit for those combat ships looking to escape PvP. Not all combat is against another player.
Here is my issue with the vocal group against WSC, they all seem to be hunters. Some might have alts that do other things and claim they would give up WSC on them too. But the fact remains Hunters don't want prey to escape.
And while I love Eve and respect it is a PvP game, Not everyone that plays it is a PvP combat player, nor is everyone that participates in PvP always the hunter.
We can infer from the fact that a mining frigate and a T2 transport ship have built in WCS that CCP believes their are uses for them for PvE activities. So pilots wanting to do PvE activities have safety net. It does not make them immune and comes with significant penalties.
So, yeah FW needs a complete overhaul. Should there be a hotfix in the mean time to change WCS behavior? I don't see why. You can still blow them up, just takes more effort.
If it were up to me I would want to see small and novice plexes restricted to militia only and WCS would have no effect in them. That would allow pure FW conflicts in those size complexes, and leave the larger ones open to free for all gangs.
Then complain that a gun is all you need, that body armor and bullet proof vests are not necessary if you have a gun, why should anyone be allowed to use them?
Granted, this will never prevent guns from existing nor from being used illegally, it will just greatly reduce their use. And in countries like the USA, gun advocates and hunters, and the like, will never let the laws get to restrictive.
Yes you can want to live in a world without guns, and you might even hope everyone will one day feel the same way. But if you are even the slightest bit a realest, you will know it is not possible. Your best bet is in regulations that will reduce their use. But they will never go away.
I would like to live in a Factional Warfare space without pirates. Now pirates aren't bad, they have there place in the game. I won't ask CCP to ban pirates. But they are an unwanted third party for purest FW. I hope that pirates will realize the Factional Warfare is opt in, and if a person does not opt in, ie pirates, then they will one day realize they have no place in FW complexes and they will see the light that they are not needed there.